Germani Brescia traveled to Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana for a key meeting between Group A’s bottom two teams on Wednesday night and showed more composure and efficiency in the crucial stages to grab a narrow 80-83 victory that ended a four-game losing run.

 

The Italian team dominated early on with new signings Aleksej Nikolic and Ryan Taylor making a mark on their debuts, but Cedevita roared back with a 16-2 run to lead at halftime and there was little to choose between the teams for the rest of the way.

 

Things looked bad for Brescia when Cedevita edged into a 7-point lead, 79-72, with just 2 and a half minutes to play, but that was when the visiting team’s two most trusted players took the game into their hands.

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Amadeo Della Valle started the comeback by making a pair of free throws, before CJ Massinburg did the same and then Della Valle returned to the line for another 2 points and – in less than a minute – the deficit had been cut to just 1 point. Yogi Ferrell split free throws at the other end before Massinburg returned to the fore, scoring the game’s only field goal of the last 4:34 with a triple to take the lead, 80-81.

 

The one-two punch continued as Della Valle drew another foul and went back to the line for another successful pair of conversions, and that proved to be the final score of the game as Edo Muric sent his final shot too short, securing a vital road win.

 

And after 37 minutes of closely contested basketball, it was ultimately a win achieved through efficiency, with 8 successful free throw conversions without a miss, 0 turnovers and good rebounding to limit Cedevita’s chances of pulling out the win. And individually, it was the team’s two most consistent players, Massingburg (11.1 points per game) and Della Valle (14.2 ppg) who combined for all of the last 11 points, showing their leadership for a group of players that can now start to think about cementing a place in the playoff positions.

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Della Valle and Massinburg lifted efficient Brescia

Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana v Germani Brescia (2022-12-14T19:00:00.000Z)

 Ulm excelled to give Bourg a rude awakening 

ratiopharm Ulm produced easily its best performance of the season in the 7DAYS Eurocup to celebrate a memorable 110-98 home win over JL Bourg, breaking several club records in the process.

The German team's 63 points in the first half, 86 by the end of the third quarter, and their full-time tally of 110 surpassed its previous club records at each interval.  Its best scoring total in 135 EuroCup games before Wednesday was 106 points against Fox Cantu in the 2013-14 season.

Ulm came out on top in Wednesday's slugfest against Bourg as it buried a club-record 19 of 36 shots from three-point range and 20 of 25 from inside the arc, overcoming 20 turnovers and what head coach Anton Gavel called a patchy defensive performance.

In the end, it didn’t matter in the fast-paced encounter as Ulm had too much firepower for the Group A leader. Having failed to defend the perimeter from start to finish, Bourg slipped to a second defeat.

Beaten by Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana 108-78 in the previous round, Ulm bounced back in style with a whole stack of players contributing offensively. The home players shared the ball as their smooth transition produced 23 assists and resulted in a flurry of open shots, with seven players registering double-digit scoring.

Bourg had its own bright moments as Jordan Floyd served up a fine individual performance with a game-high 23 points, but the French outfit was ultimately undone by superior long-range shooting.

Ulm excelled to give Bourg a rude awakening

ratiopharm Ulm v Mincidelice JL Bourg en Bresse (2022-12-14T18:30:00.000Z)

In a battle that went down to the wire, Promitheas Patras returned to winning ways by edging Paris Basketball 71-74  in the French capital on Wednesday night for its third road victory. 

Promitheas holds onto road win in Paris

In a battle that went down to the wire, Promitheas Patras returned to winning ways by edging Paris Basketball 71-74  in the French capital on Wednesday night for its third road victory. 

Promitheas upped its record to 5-3 in Group B. Anthony Cowan led the winners with 21 points. Arboldas Kulboka added 13 while Nikos Gkikas had 11 for Promitheas. Kyle Allman had 15 points for Paris, which dropped to 5-3, as well, tied with Promitheas and Buducnost VOLI Podgorica for third place.  Aamir Simms added 13 points and Juhann Begarin 12 for Paris.

Ismael Kamagate dunked twice to give Paris an early 5-2 lead but Cowan and Vassilis Mouratos soon helped Promitheas go ahead 9-11. Begarin's back-to-back dunks restored a 17-14 Paris lead after 10 minutes. Kulboka, Georgios Tanoulis and Gkikas each hit a triple in a 0-9 run that gave the guests a 26-29 lead. George Conditt and Kulboka kept Promitheas in charge, 34-36, at halftime. Cowan hit consecutive three-pointers and Kulboka another one to boost the guests' lead to 40-47. Promitheas kept a 47-51 margin at the end of the third quarter and Cowan kept his team ahead, 53-55, with over 6 minutes left. Allman took over with back-to-back triples and Begarin dunked again to bring Paris within 66-67 with 1:05 left. Kulboka and Cowan combined for 7 of 7 free throws , however, to seal the outcome down the stretch, as Paris's Tyrone Wallace and Simms each missed from downtown in the final seconds.

Promitheas holds on for 71-74 road win in Paris 

Paris Basketball v Promitheas Patras (2022-12-14T19:30:00.000Z)

### [Turk Telekom Ankara 102-74 London Lions](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/turk-telekom-ankara-london-lions/U2022/76/)

Turk Telekom is now leading the standings in Group B after beating London at Ankara Spor Salonu on Wednesday evening. This victory advanced Turk Telekom to 6-2, whereas London saw its three-game winning run come to an end as it dropped to 4-4. Nathan Sestina and Jerian Grant were Turk Telekom's star performers on the night, with the former scoring 20 points off the bench and the latter contributing 18 points and 9 assists. For London, Sam Dekker and Kosta Koufos were the team's leading scorers with 20 and 13 points, respectively, while both also grabbed 7 rebounds.

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### [Prometey Slobozhanske 105-82 U-BT Cluj-Napoca ](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/prometey-slobozhanske-u-bt-cluj-napoca/U2022/74/)

Prometey shifted its potent offense into top gear and downed Cluj 105-82 behind a strong second half. In a battle of EuroCup newcomers, Prometey used 15 three-pointers and six double-digit scorers to get back to winning ways, snapping a two-game losing streak and improving to 4-4 in Group B. Cluj remained winless in its four road games and dropped to 3-5 on the season. Ondrej Balvin had 23 points and 6 rebounds, while DJ Kennedy tallied 23 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds and 4 steals in the victory. Patrick Richard posted 19 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for the visitors.

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### [ratiopharm Ulm 110-98 Mincidelice JL Bourg en Bresse](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/ratiopharm-ulm-mincidelice-jl-bourg-en-bresse/U2022/75/#roster)

Ulm set a club scoring record after a magnificent performance in a 110-98 home win over Group A leader Bourg. Ulm achieved its highest score in a EuroCup game ever, having shattered its previous record of 106 points against Fox Cantu in the 2013-14 EuroCup. The home team shot 80% from two-point range and sank 19 three-pointers on 36 attempts, as it also set a new club record of 63 points in the first half. Yago Dos Santos paced the hosts with 18 points and Juan Nunez and Karim Jallow added 16 each. Bourg’s Jordan Floyd led all scorers with 23 points.

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### [Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana 80-83 Germani Brescia](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/prometey-slobozhanske-u-bt-cluj-napoca/U2022/74/)

Brescia grabbed a key win by downing Cedevita 80-83 in a meeting between Group A’s bottom two teams. Brescia improved to 3-5 after ending a four-game losing run, while Cedevita is now two games adrift at 1-7. Brescia raced into a double-digit advantage before the end of the first quarter, but a 16-2 run gave Cedevita the lead at the break. The second half was closely contested until Brescia enjoyed the better of the final stages to grab the win. Amadeo Della Valle (19 points) and CJ Massinburg (16) led the winners, while Cedevita’s Edo Muric made 6-of-8 three-pointers in his 23 points and Yogi Ferrell scored 17 in defeat.

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### [Joventut Badalona 90-87 Umana Reyer Venice](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/joventut-badalona-umana-reyer-venice/U2022/73/)

Henry Ellenson made a buzzer-beating three-pointer to lift Joventut Badalona to a thrilling 90-87 win over visiting Umana Reyer Venice. Joventut squandered an 8-point lead with 1:45 to go before Ellenson saved the day. The win ended Joventut's two-game losing streak, improving it to 5-3 while Reyer had its five-game winning streak snapped, as it dropped to 5-3 and a four-team tie for the best record in Group A. Joel Parra paced the hosts with 23 points. Marco Spissu shined for Reyer with 27 points.

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### [Paris Basketball 71-74 Promitheas Patras](https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/eurocup/game-center/2022-23/paris-basketball-promitheas-patras/U2022/77/)

In a battle that went down to the wire, Promitheas returned to winning ways by edging Paris in the French capital for its third road victory. Promitheas won 71-74 at Halle Georges Carpinter to raise its record to 5-3 in Group B. Anthony Cowan led the winners with 21 points and Arboldas Kulboka added 13. Kyle Allman scored 15 points for Paris, which dropped to 5-3 in the standings.

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Game Center: Turk Telekom, Prometey, Ulm pile on the points in victories

Germani Brescia grabbed a key win by downing Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana 80-83 in a meeting between Group A’s bottom two teams. Brescia improved to 3-5 after ending a four-game losing run, while Cedevita is now two games adrift at 1-7. 

Brescia raced into a double-digit advantage before the end of the first quarter, but a 16-2 run gave Cedevita the lead at the break. The second half was closely contested until Brescia enjoyed the better of the final stages to grab the win. Amadeo Della Valle (19 points) and CJ Massinburg (16) led the winners, while Cedevita’s Edo Muric made 6-of-8 three-pointers in his 23 points and Yogi Ferrell scored 17 in defeat.

Aleksej Nikolic scored 5 early points as Brescia moved ahead, before triples from David Cournooh, Ryan Taylor and Massinburg stretched the lead to 20-29 at the end of the first despite 8 points for Ferrell. Della Valle and Taylor struck from deep, but Muric exploded with 12 points and Amar Alibegovic added 4 to give Cedevita an interval lead, 44-43. 

Taylor’s three opened the second half, but 4 more points for Ferrell and another Muric triple made it 53-52. Muric and Ferrell again struck from deep for a 62-60 lead with 10 minutes remaining. Alibegovic scored twice to make it 75-70 midway through the fourth and Muric added another triple. But free throws pulled Brescia closer, Massinburg’s three-pointer sent the visitors ahead, 80-81, inside the last minute and Muric couldn’t force overtime with the last shot.

Brescia grabs key win over Cedevita, 80-83

Henry Ellenson made a buzzer-beating three-pointer to lift Joventut Badalona to a thrilling 90-87 win over visiting Umana Reyer Venice on Wednesday night. Joventut had an 8-point lead with 1:45 to go, but it seemed as though the hosts squandered it when Andrea De Nicolao tied the game at 87-87 with 6.2 seconds to go. However, Pep Busquets took the ball the other way, and found Henry Ellenson who hit a three at the buzzer to win it for Joventut.

This win ended Joventut's two-game losing streak, improving it to 5-3 while Reyer had its five-game winning streak snapped, as it dropped to 5-3 and a four-team tie for the best record in Group A. Joel Parra paced the hosts with 23 points, having made all of his 5 triples in the first half. Kyle Guy and Andres Feliz scored 15 apiece, with Felize also adding 6 assists and 5 steals, while Ante Tomic had 12 points, 6 rebounds and 4 steals. Ellenson finished with 6 points. Marco Spissu shined for Reyer with 27 points, shooting 4-for-5 on both two-pointers and three-pointers. Jayson Granger scored 16 and Derek Willis had 13 points in defeat.

The visitors opened the game with a 7-16 lead behind 3 triples, 1 each from Willis, Spissu and Allerik Freeman, but Joventut answered with a 9-0 run sparked by Tomic. Spissu and Willis hit more three-pointers for Reyer, but so did Parra and Guy for the hosts to tie a fast-paced affair at 24-24 after 10 minutes. Things slowed down in the second quarter, as teams traded blows. Parra had back-to-back threes to give Joventut a slight cushion, and his four-point play in the last second of the first half made it 49-44 at halftime.

The teams kept trading blows after the break. A triple from Pau Ribas made it 59-54, and after Mitchell Watt and Granger replied with a 2-8 run, a triple from Ellenson and a three-point play from Ribas made it 67-64 going into the fourth. That's when Granger scored all the points in a 0-8 run, including back-to-back triples, followed by a jumper to give Reyer 69-74. But Tomic sparked and Parra finished a 10-0 run that turned things around and put Joventut in front. Parra extended it to 84-76, but Spissu had a triple, a runner, then made 3 free throws to cut it to 85-84 in the final minute. Guy's free throws made it a 3-point game with 13 seconds to go. Reyer went the other way where De Nicolao nailed a three to tie the game, but Ellenson's triple at the buzzer gave Joventut a dramatic win.

Joventut's Ellenson wins it at the buzzer against Reyer

Joventut Badalona v Umana Reyer Venice (2022-12-14T19:15:00.000Z)

### Promitheas Patras head coach Ioannis Christopoulos:

"That is excatly what it is \[being satisfied after the win\]. That's the case. That's what you play for, to win basketball games and we played for it. No matter what happened, we remained dedicated to our defensive plan. I think everybody fulfilled his defensive task in a pretty good way, and I think we played intelligent in the crucial moments. Every game is difficult no matter where you play in this competition. Every game will be very important. Every opponent will be strong. For us, it is an important win, we were missing two very important players. Still, we managed to get the job done and that's very good. The players fought very hard.

"We did a good job on both ends of the floor. We initiated our offense with our defense and that was the game. We knew we were facing a strong team with a deep roster and a high level of athleticism. We knew that if we wanted to get the job done, we had to be committed on the defensive end and I think we did a good job there. Offensively, we turned the ball over a lot in the first half. I think that in the second half, we played more team basketball. We shared the ball and took the right decisions. Definitely, it is a game from which you have to learn a lot. You have to learn how to operate in the crucial moments but we deserve a lot of credit and move on to the next one."

### Paris Basketball head coach Will Weaver:

"It is a missed opportunity, certainly by our players and by me as well. Our group is getting back together, so it is going to take a while for us to gel, but it has to happen soon because every night is a night in which we have to compete in the leagues we are playing.

"Congratulations to Patras. They came in here short-handed and played extremely hard. I thought our guys brought the energy but we couldn't survive with that shooting night, 18% from three. But it is great to have our full group back and we will get better as we have more time to play together and practice together."

### Promitheas Patras guard Anthony Cowan: 

"it is definitely a big one for us, especially having two big-time players out. But definitely a big win coming in and staying locked in. I am happy that we were able to bring it out. We hit some shots and I think down the stretch we really guarded. I think that was the big difference for us. When we guard, we are a tough team to beat." 

Coach Christopoulos, Promitheas: 'We managed to get the job done'

### ratiopharm Ulm head coach Anton Gavel:

"Congratulations to all the guys to win this game. Offensively we were shooting the lights out but defensively we were not there. Twenty turnovers, we lost control in the third quarter and we’ve got to get better there. But the shooting night was there.

"We don’t know \[the extent of Yago Dos Santos’s injury\], but this is really bad for us. Yago is very important for us and we will see how long he is going to be out for. Hopefully, it’s not that bad but it’s a tough one.

"We have to be competitive. This is something we were missing in Ljubljana last week where we got beaten by 30 and we have to put a fight every single time, every single night, even when we don’t have shooting nights like today. It’s not going to happen every time and we have to be there and compete every night."

 

### ratiopharm Ulm forward Karim Jallow:

"I think we shared the ball really, really nice, we made a lot of shots so it felt really good being on the court today. The whole team performed and that’s very important. Everybody will be going home with a good feeling and it was a great win for us. 

"We got a really great addition with Brandon \[Paul\], you really could see today what he is capable of and that’s just his first game. He is going to push the team because he’s got a lot of experience. We are a young team and we needed a guy like him. Like all season we’ve been fighting with injuries but no matter who is on the court, we wanted to win this game and everyone on the court showed that."

Coach Gavel, Ulm: 'We shot the lights out' 

### Joventut Badalona head coach Carles Duran:

"Venice is a great team. I think we played well, but in the last minute or so, we did some stupid things. But I am happy because with good effort and played good basketball. I think it was a very good game. It was important for us to stay high in the standings in this group. But this group is very competitive. It is difficult to play great basketball every game, but this is a good win for us tonight."

### Umana Reyer Venice head coach Walter De Raffaele:

"It was a great game, both teams played good basketball. We lost because of the details, 1 three-pointer made, 1 foul called. That's basketball. They won, congratulations to Joventut, but also congratulations to my team."

### Joventut Badalona forward Henry Ellenson:

"They hit a tough shot to tie with 6 seconds left and we did a good job of inbounding the ball quick. Pep pushed the floor and was able to find me in transition, and you know what, it was a lot of fun to hit that shot and a lot of fun to get that win. It is just a great feeling right now. They are a great team, they played tough all night, we had to grind that one out. We switched leads back and forth there in the fourth quarter. So, to be able to protect home court and to come out with a win in front of this crowd, it was awesome."

Della Valle and Massinburg lifted efficient Brescia

Ulm excelled to give Bourg a rude awakening

Promitheas holds on for 71-74 road win in Paris

Game Center: Turk Telekom, Prometey, Ulm pile on the points in victories

Brescia grabs key win over Cedevita, 80-83

Joventut's Ellenson wins it at the buzzer against Reyer

Coach Christopoulos, Promitheas: 'We managed to get the job done'

Coach Gavel, Ulm: 'We shot the lights out'

Coach Duran, Joventut: 'This group is very competitive'